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rokocoko · Mar 09, 2011, 08:48 AM // 08:48

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

5. It seems to me that this suggestion has an ulterior motive - to allow players who have taken a secondary profession the ability, however limited, to modify their builds when tackling the new quests. Taking a secondary profession is something that experienced, aspiring LDoA's would not do until they reached 16 or 19 prior to the update since they know that saving that XP for later is the better option. (By that time, one would hope that one would know the "best" secondary to take before accepting it.)

^^ this.

You said you have another LDoA character in post-searing, so you must have some experience with the game ("pre" included). No need to mess up the story for some "mistake".

/not signed

akelarumi · Mar 09, 2011, 10:01 AM // 10:01

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Originally Posted by Rites

ANet has done enough "Accommodating" for a training area, they dont need to do anymore.

hmmmm, I tend to disagree on this point. First of all I want to thank Anet for the recent changes to pre-searing.

To the OP i would say I disagree. One of the charming things bout pre are the limitations. If you can't handle them, don't go perma pre.

There are however some things to make pre even more interesting for perma-pre chars.

1: pre to post taxi npc.
Now you need a free characterslot and help from a friend/guildmember to get your stuff out. It would be awesome to have an NPC holding your stuff for future use. My thoughts would be professor Yakington (with all his bags). In pre you can give your pre items to him and in post you go to him and he gives them back. This works only from pre to post and not the other way around off course. How serious this is depends of the difficulties to program this.

2: Event npc's. You can farm event items. You can get them, but you can't use them in pre. So make an event npc then exchanges the event drops to something usefull/wanted in pre (e.g. the event masks).

3: mentioned by someone else in a different topic: a costume trader.

4: make Kimmes capable of dedicating miniatures to the HoM as well.

gremlin · Mar 09, 2011, 12:41 PM // 12:41

No to profession changer in pre

The reason is simple it should become fairly obvious quite early that you have chosen badly not that this will make much difference anyway.

You have so few skills and points that splitting between 2 classes or using many secondary skills is unlikely.
Starting again is the easy way out.

If it was possible to get your character really high before a problem becomes obvious it would be worth considering.
In which case I would put it in the store and charge for it so players didn't abuse it.

MithranArkanere · Mar 09, 2011, 01:17 PM // 13:17

There are a few choices for secondary profession in pre:
- Ranger or Monk if you are a warrior.
- Monk or Necromancer if you re mesmer
- Monk or Mesmer if you are anything else.
You can't change secondaries without ascending, and you can't ascend in Pre.

As much as I'd like to be able to change builds without making another character or leaving pre-Searing, there are things you just don't change.
There... Limits.

This is one of those limits.

X Dr Pepper X · Mar 09, 2011, 04:11 PM // 16:11

What is wrong with people in this thread?

They ooze stupidity. Morons attempting elitism.

What OP asks for is reasonable enough. The ability to correct mistakes without longterm consequences is a part of ANet's game philosophy.

BUT

It would be difficult to implement it.

If one were to find a nice solution that both lets people fix these mistakes while not affecting any other part of the game, then I don't see the problem.

drkn · Mar 09, 2011, 05:09 PM // 17:09

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Morons attempting elitism.

Keeping the storyline is elitism for you? oO

Missing HB · Mar 09, 2011, 05:57 PM // 17:57

I see no argument nor example to say why being able to change sec prof in pre-searing would be useful, thus /notsigned...

I know it's annoying because you mention 44 month old char , but that's the same resort of old characters with bad names , bad look , etc... ( ok , yo ucan pay to change , but it's still much..)

X Dr Pepper X · Mar 10, 2011, 12:05 AM // 00:05

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Originally Posted by drkn

Keeping the storyline is elitism for you? oO

No. How did you even conclude this from my post?

Keeping the story intact is sensible.

Shitty posts like this are just blatant dickery:

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so you are saying you want the characters to be able to recieve the blessings of the gods earlier just because of your ignorance?

Hyaon · Mar 10, 2011, 07:21 PM // 19:21

/signed

It gets boring using the same bar from charr hunts/quests, it'd be nice to vary it up!

Roen · Mar 10, 2011, 07:34 PM // 19:34

I like the new daily quests. I've a level 15 E/Mo that I started DL-ing before the latest update. It's boring and tedious as all get out. The dailies are much more enjoyable. It sucks for all the LDoAs before me but I'd be willing to accept an asterisk behind my LDoA title if that makes you feel better.

Also, I chose E/Mo (because I wanted to dye her all black and have an emo character...ha ha aren't I punny).

Lastly, no. Definitely should not be a profession changer in Pre. It would completely break the whole prophecies storyline. If you want the flexibility of changing secondaries, don't accept and lock in your secondary. If you already have, sorry...go post.

/notsigned

liqwde · Mar 18, 2011, 05:31 PM // 17:31

Look. I don't agree or disagree. But added it would be easy. Add an NPC that erases memory. You lose your secondary and all skills, money, and and skills points spent on it. You could even go as far as removing an experience earned while you had that profession. Doesn't interfere with the story and comes at a cost.

Marverick · Mar 21, 2011, 08:15 PM // 20:15

Make it available only after you get to level 20.

If you need "story" justification, well, by achieving level 20 you've acquired enough experience to be able to learn more than 2 professions. there.
Isn't GW2 about having multiple paths to the same thing, and you get to choose the path? Well this would be like that then...

Ascension doesn't inherently have anything to do with changing professions anyway.

NerfHerder · Mar 22, 2011, 12:29 AM // 00:29

As much as I would love to change the 2 year old secondary on my Ranger in Pre, I gotta say no.

After I get LDoA, I will be making another toon just for pre, and I will get it right this time.

Swingline · Mar 22, 2011, 03:55 PM // 15:55

/notsigned

Like ppl have said, pre is a training ground. ANet have added sh*t tons of stuff to pre that never should have happened and yet ppl still want more.

Sir Mad · Mar 22, 2011, 04:03 PM // 16:03

/not signed - where is the pre I used to love?

No more post searing stuff in pre, please. That's too much already.

reaper with no name · Mar 24, 2011, 07:37 AM // 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by X Dr Pepper X

What is wrong with people in this thread?

They ooze stupidity. Morons attempting elitism.

What OP asks for is reasonable enough. The ability to correct mistakes without longterm consequences is a part of ANet's game philosophy.

BUT

It would be difficult to implement it.

If one were to find a nice solution that both lets people fix these mistakes while not affecting any other part of the game, then I don't see the problem.

Bolded for emphasis.

/signed

MithranArkanere · Mar 24, 2011, 01:31 PM // 13:31

The thing is, you need to ascend to change secondaries.

As much as I'd love it too, there are limitations in everything. And this is beyond pre-Searing's limitations.

reaper with no name · Mar 24, 2011, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Do you "need" to ascend, or is that just an arbitrary game limitation (and a minor one, at that)?

Brixton · May 16, 2011, 07:18 PM // 19:18

The backlash here is surprising. It's not an unreasonable request--and frankly, given the "training ground" arguments it seems like you shouldn't be locked into a secondary until after you're forced to leave pre-searing anyway.

But seriously, what's with all the hardcore roleplaying going on in here? Throwing the gods' blessings in their face and whatnot? You can run straight to Droknar's Forge from Ascalon City and beat Prophecies without even ascending. Yet you're complaining that the ability to try out other secondaries when you have more skill points would break the game? Seriously--no need to worry about the storyline being broken.

If people care about the story they'll go through each quest and take their time. I guarantee most people don't care that much and are only heading for end-game content. On top of that, I can ensure you no one likes being forced into someone else's preferences for a robust immersive rp experience.

This is a completely reasonable request that wouldn't affect anything. Most of these replies sound like a whole lot of "I walked 10 miles barefoot through the snow because I made a mistake, and everyone else should have to!"

Coast · May 17, 2011, 03:22 PM // 15:22

not signed, we can't go to pre neither.
So if we don't get our toys then u in pre also may not get ur toys.
/end rant